where the aloites, even though they've lost effective national control are tile continue some sort of law. mr. landis used the example before, and i thi it is rht onwhat we saw in iraq where you had for years various sunni group continue to take the battle against the shi'a forces. >> rose: joshua, would you contradict what richard said? >> the big danger for obama is you're not going to end the civil war by destroying the syrian state. there are over 1,000 militias in the opposition. some of them are al qaeda connected. the islamic front, which leans in that direction, is perhaps the most powerful collection of militias. and then there are other militias that we're trying to cuivate and ve r aid to which are more liberal islamist militias. so-- and the danger is all these militias are sharing arms. they're working together. so if you give arms to your militia, you can't guarantee that they're not going to be shared with the more-- other islamic front militias. and that's problem. we haven't been able to just give arms to our militias, for example, and say-- and have them stay there. they